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Srubbing IE For Firefox und Mozilla
Published on July 23, 2005 By Chuck In Personal Computing
Firefox has gained immensive popularity as both an individual and business internet browser due to its simplicity of operation, speed and security. Installation is simple to say the least, but the real treats were the controls IE initially lacked: popups, spam and effective cookie control. They are relatively easy to set up and then can be with a simple click to identify the culprits.

Like many others, I started out initially using the Netscape browser and liked its overall ease of use and GUI. Then along came the Microsoft IE 1.0 and suddenly I was running two browsers instead of just the Netscape. Eventually, I scrapped Netscape completely and went solely to Internet Explorer with 6.02 being the last version. Somewhere during its use, awareness began of nasty little things called cookies and a third party vendor product was found to have control over them. Soon, it was noted control was not enough as my Norton Anti-Virus was not able to control certain invasions occurring.

Changes began in 2001 when a new computer was purchased along with broadband service and with this came a whole new attitude towards safety and security. Norton AV was scrapped and others were surveyed to determine which would be best for my needs and the winner: Kaspersky. Checkout firewalls as well and deviated away from Norton to initially McAfee and now ZoneAlarm Wireless Pro. AntiSpyware was the new war, however, and this was even a more difficult decision to make. Kaspersky does a good job at identifying viruses, trojans, and worms in addition to certain spyware. What I needed was an excellent anti-spyware to do the job to the point where security and reliability was believed in.

The conclusion arrived at after quite a bit of research was two different anti-spyware programs were needed instead of one. Microsoft Antispyware is already mire in controversy with its inclusion of CLARIA, a nasty piece of spyware which MS now owns. Initially, I began with something many use today-Adware, and then moved up to a peripheral, Spyware Blaster (an excellent product) coupled with Spybot Search and Destroy. A good piece of software, but there were lapses in updates which caused me to look around again to another product, PestPatrol. PestPatrol does good work, but my learning showed me each piece of anti-spyware approaches the beasties differently and one had to select the best one for your use and satisfaction. PestPatrol was gravitated away from for another excellent product, GIANT Antispyware. I was happy, regular updates attention, finding the bad guys and then it happened!!!>>>Microsoft purchased them. Before I knew, MS had pared down the original program to a semblance and even worse, it no longer detected the way it had before. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Finally, I found an excellent product called CounterSpy which is utterly fantastic, regular updates, security reports and makes me feel wanted. Spy Sweeper is run concurrently and they work well together to keep my system clean. MS Anti-spyware has a problem with either of these installed so it was cast upon the pile as a formerly good product before Bill got hold of it.

Meanwhile, all these security updates were rolling in for MSIE and I began feeling somewhat dubious of its safety. Again, the research began and suddenly there was Firefox and Mozilla.
It was a whole new world without the usual struggles with ActiveX security concerns, cookies and incessant updates. Now, Firefox 1.06 and Mozilla 1.7.10 are being run concurrently until Mozilla releases a Firefox Suite.

The Mozilla Foundation recently announced it would be discontinuing its Mozilla Suites in the future to concentrate solely on Firefox and an eventual suite. This, of course, is not good news for Bill Gates and Microsoft as Internet Explorer popularity has waned a great deal due to the well publicized federal monopoly suit, state versions, security problems and cost. Thunderbird has really applied itself during the past few versions and made substantial improvements. An integration between Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird for the calendar function would be ideal for many of us. And what is the single factor that makes Bill Gates and his staff go completely bonkers-their all free!!! While MS charges outrageously for various pieces of software for individuals, it really hits businesses with similarly outrageous fees for licenses. Time for a reality check, Bill.....Linux can be had free or purchased for a reasonable fee; Mozilla products are free; thus what is the picture being drawn here. Does one pay $225 dollars or so for OfficeXP or obtain something like OpenOffice free of charge. Duhhhhhhhhhh!!\

Regardless, Firefox is fun and I encourage anyone who hasn't download a copy to do so and install for a fun time. And don't forget to download Thunderbird and Sunbird while you're at it. After installation, go to your bookmarks and click Mozilla Update, and then find extensions and themes. You will be amazed to see the variety of themes to be download and even more so by the number of extensions, commonplace ideas developed, you can find. Give it a try and see what you are missing using IE.

Comments
on Jul 24, 2005
I'm not missing anything with IE. It would be interesting see what you have to say about IE 7.0 once it arrives.
on Jul 24, 2005
Thanks for posting and I look forward to 7.0 eagerly.
on Jul 24, 2005
@Kona...How did I know you would be the first to post!
on Jul 24, 2005

Time for a reality check, Bill.....Linux can be had free or purchased for a reasonable fee; Mozilla products are free; thus what is the picture being drawn here. Does one pay $225 dollars or so for OfficeXP or obtain something like OpenOffice free of charge. Duhhhhhhhhhh!!\
 

If you don't want to pay for Microsoft products then don't - it's as simple as that. Use other products if you want, it's your free choice. Just quit whinging about it. You anti-Microsoft lackeys are as tedious as a worn out record.

Talk about IE... Firefox is a resource hog, slow to load, and full of security holes as recent 'urgent' patches have demonstrated. Each have their advantages and disadvantages.

I use both for different things, but then I'm not blinkered

on Jul 24, 2005
Firefox is a resource hog, slow to load


Not quite sure how you get that, right now with 5 tabs open FF is using less than 11k of memory, IE with one window open tops the list of all my processes at over 26k of memory use.

True it is a little slower to load due to the fact that it is not tied directly into the OS.

I don't want to get into a long winded FF vs IE argument again, but I have to say that it is hardly "full of security holes" While no browser can probably ever claim to be 100% secure, at least third party browsers (Moz, FF, Opera ) don't give direct access to the core of the OS like IE does when it is compromised.

Since the release of FF 1.0, the MoFo seems to have lost it's direction a little, I hope they get things back on track, and don't let all their hard work go by the wayside.

I am looking forward to see what IE7 has, I might even start using IE for more than Windows updates again.

And to Chuck, sorry, but Open Office, while a very good piece of OSS, just can't match up to MS Office suite no matter how hard it tries. MS may have be a little heavy handed in their business practices, but at least give them credit where deserved.
on Jul 24, 2005
Most home users will never used MS Office to its full potential, heck, where I work the only thing we couldn't use OpenOffice for is our database application.

Personally, I use Opera but thats a whole other can of worms
on Jul 24, 2005
I've got a basic user's Firefox tutorial on my website: www.cerebrojd.net
on Jul 24, 2005
There's no doubt MS deserves a lot of credit for their innovative programs such as MS Office, etc. Will never begudge them that, but that imagination seems to have been superseded by a need for ever increasing profit incentive. I still use OfficeXP and find it extremely beneficial for my needs, but have forsaken others like Outlook Express not only due to security concerns, but shabby tech support. MS was once eager and hungry; that was replaced by a corporate attitude eager to monopolize and bleed every penny from the consumer.

You're right, quit whining....this isn't whining, but an honest statement about a product which replaced IE for myself after years of use; about Thunderbird which outed Outlook Express and Outlook since MS security and technical support was lacking; and retail price tags that seem to go up for even the older MS products.

What MS did with recent products was simply develop and throw out there without intensive security and quality testing. Granted, there will always be innovative hacks no one can foresee, but that's why MS pays the big bucks for software engineers, etc. to at least speculate what the future holds. The late emphasis by MS on popups, spam, etc., was spurred not by initial concern, but by dedicated third party vendors who created programs to stymy a need not being addressed by a dominant corporation. Then MS suddenly found the need to have an "anti-spyware" and incorporate other security features.

My hope is IE 7.0 will be futuristic in some respects and not cost more than the average consumer can bear. Secondly, Windows Vista will not only reflect the prior concerns, but will be tested securely enough not to have a multitude of flaws which will not only crash continouously, but melt down from external probes. MS has the brainpower, but has become somewhat complacent the past few years. Now Bill Gates has suddenly discovered buying politicians is profitable and has whittled down his financial penalties lost in the recent lawsuits. Perhaps he can afford to stimulate his people into something really fantastic while affordable.

Thanks for posting, all!!
on Jul 24, 2005
I believe IE 7 will be free.
on Jul 24, 2005
but that imagination seems to have been superseded by a need for ever increasing profit incentive.


That is their job. They have shareholders besides Bill Gates, their job is to make money for the shareholders. Admittedly, i wish I was one of their major shareholders but oh well. I vote for IE, always have, always will. I've tried others but always come back. What works for me won't always work for others though. To each their own.
on Jul 26, 2005
Agreed, _TAPPER_, its always whatever works best for each person. However, I do miss those heady days of the 1980s where creativity and imagination was not subservient to the dollar incentive. That's my problem and why I look towards third party vendors to fill the void. Most are hungry, inventive and more responsive to technical probelms rather than wiating hours for major software tech support or having a cultural language misinterpretation with an outsource in India or China. People in all countries need to work and that's not the issue. The issue is quality customer service to resolve a problem currently being experienced and unfortunately, more than one major corp is falling below adequate responsive levels.

Let's promot those magical qualities of imagination and creativity again.

Thanks for posting..
on Jul 27, 2005
Firefox OWNS!